Ben Gracewood is a stalwart of the New Zealand tech scene having worked his way through development, TV punditry, manager, event organiser, and all through it he has held his principles in front and his head high.

We welcome not just Sarah Bickerton to the podcast but our co-host Vivian Chandra and her first recording ... and it was a meeting of kindred spirits as they are both Physics undergrads who then ended up doing more sociology!

Tony McDonald and John Weaver run through the many facets of their company - from offering transition to cloud services, full IT management, re-carpeting a business and providing full information security. We also talk beer and music!

People, they talk, mostly about tech stuff but not always - it's all about the community and letting them have their voice, and so we do ... enjoy.

Christina Bellis and Catarina Gutierrez from Thankyou Payroll talked through how they see "social enterprise” in New Zealand, why it matters to them personally, and how they ended up in such an organisation.