Tim Packer is a smart city advocate having worked with NEC and the Wellington City Council on the potential use of sensors to help bring the heartbeat and incidents closer to those that need to monitor and respond.

But that’s not all Tim is passionate about …

Sean Audain works at the Wellington City Council and has been a civil servant in one manner or another all his professional life ... wait, wait, come back, this is NOT boring!

This is a story of many things, open data, smart cities, guiding others through red tape, and compassion for the startup but most of all this is a story that is in no way finished.

The ups of running a startup can be few and far between and Hiria has a few to share, and with a lot of downs she can show the world she will not give up!

Melody stares at the perceived Kiwi reticence to talk about anything uncomfortable and shouts SEX! (or rather BANG!), and takes the subject head-on with her ongoing and very successful RNZ podcast.

Deep in the lounge at Hashigo Zake we catch up with Hiria as she takes us through this weeks bumpy road to running a startup and the big blocks she needs to put in place very soon.